Assembly Bill 96
Relating to: the composition of the Board of Veterans Affairs, the appointment of the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and promulgating rules for the Department of Veterans Affairs.
Assembly substitute amendment 2 to Assembly Bill 96 offered by Representative Sinicki.
Representative Knodl moved that Assembly substitute amendment 2 to Assembly Bill 96 be laid on the table.
The question was: Shall Assembly substitute amendment 2 to Assembly Bill 96 be laid on the table?
The roll was taken.
The result follows:
Ayes - Representatives August, Bernier, Brooks, Craig, Endsley, Farrow, Honadel, Jacque, Kaufert, Kerkman, Kestell, Kleefisch, Klenke, Knilans, Knodl, Knudson, Kooyenga, Kramer, Krug, Kuglitsch, T. Larson, LeMahieu, Litjens, Loudenbeck, Marklein, Meyer, Mursau, Murtha, Nass, Nerison, Nygren, A. Ott, J. Ott, Petersen, Petrowski, Petryk, Pridemore, Ripp, Rivard, Severson, Spanbauer, Steineke, Stone, Strachota, Stroebel, Suder, Tauchen, Thiesfeldt, Tiffany, Tranel, Turner, Van Roy, Vos, Weininger, Williams, Wynn, Ziegelbauer and Speaker Fitzgerald - 58.
Noes - Representatives Barca, Berceau, Bernard Schaber, Bewley, Clark, E. Coggs, D. Cullen, Danou, Doyle, Grigsby, Hebl, Hintz, Hulsey, Jorgensen, Kessler, Krusick, Mason, Milroy, Molepske Jr, Pasch, Pocan, Pope-Roberts, Radcliffe, Richards, Ringhand, Roys, Seidel, Shilling, Sinicki, Staskunas, Steinbrink, Toles, Vruwink, Young, Zamarripa and Zepnick - 36.
Absent or not voting - Representatives Ballweg, Bies, Fields and Kapenga - 4.
Motion carried.
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Point of Order
Representative Richards rose to a point of order that Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 was not germane under Assembly Rule 54 (3)(f).
Speaker Pro Tempore Kramer ruled the point of order not timely.
Representative Knodl moved that Assembly amendment 5 to Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 be laid on the table.
The question was: Shall Assembly amendment 5 to Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 be laid on the table?
The roll was taken.
The result follows:
Ayes - Representatives August, Bernier, Brooks, Craig, Endsley, Farrow, Honadel, Jacque, Kaufert, Kerkman, Kestell, Kleefisch, Klenke, Knilans, Knodl, Knudson, Kooyenga, Kramer, Krug, Kuglitsch, T. Larson, LeMahieu, Litjens, Loudenbeck, Marklein, Meyer, Mursau, Murtha, Nass, Nerison, Nygren, A. Ott, J. Ott, Petersen, Petrowski, Petryk, Pridemore, Ripp, Rivard, Severson, Spanbauer, Steineke, Stone, Strachota, Stroebel, Suder, Tauchen, Thiesfeldt, Tiffany, Tranel, Van Roy, Vos, Weininger, Williams, Wynn, Ziegelbauer and Speaker Fitzgerald - 57.
Noes - Representatives Barca, Berceau, Bernard Schaber, Bewley, Clark, E. Coggs, D. Cullen, Danou, Doyle, Grigsby, Hebl, Hintz, Hulsey, Jorgensen, Kessler, Krusick, Mason, Milroy, Molepske Jr, Pasch, Pocan, Pope-Roberts, Radcliffe, Richards, Ringhand, Roys, Seidel, Shilling, Sinicki, Staskunas, Steinbrink, Toles, Turner, Vruwink, Young, Zamarripa and Zepnick - 37.
Absent or not voting - Representatives Ballweg, Bies, Fields and Kapenga - 4.
Motion carried.
Representative Knodl moved that Assembly amendment 6 to Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 be laid on the table.
The question was: Shall Assembly amendment 6 to Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 be laid on the table?
The roll was taken.
The result follows:
Ayes - Representatives August, Bernier, Brooks, Craig, Endsley, Farrow, Honadel, Jacque, Kaufert, Kerkman, Kestell, Kleefisch, Klenke, Knilans, Knodl, Knudson, Kooyenga, Kramer, Krug, Kuglitsch, T. Larson, LeMahieu, Litjens, Loudenbeck, Marklein, Meyer, Mursau, Murtha, Nass, Nerison, Nygren, A. Ott, J. Ott, Petersen, Petrowski, Petryk, Pridemore, Ripp, Rivard, Severson, Spanbauer, Steineke, Stone, Strachota, Stroebel, Suder, Tauchen, Thiesfeldt, Tiffany, Tranel, Van Roy, Vos, Weininger, Williams, Wynn, Ziegelbauer and Speaker Fitzgerald - 57.
Noes - Representatives Barca, Berceau, Bernard Schaber, Bewley, Clark, E. Coggs, D. Cullen, Danou, Doyle, Grigsby, Hebl, Hintz, Hulsey, Jorgensen, Kessler, Krusick, Mason, Milroy, Molepske Jr, Pasch, Pocan, Pope-Roberts, Radcliffe, Richards, Ringhand, Roys, Seidel, Shilling, Sinicki, Staskunas, Steinbrink, Toles, Turner, Vruwink, Young, Zamarripa and Zepnick - 37.
A334 Absent or not voting - Representatives Ballweg, Bies, Fields and Kapenga - 4.
Motion carried.
Representative Knodl moved that Assembly amendment 7 to Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 be laid on the table.
The question was: Shall Assembly amendment 7 to Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 be laid on the table?
The roll was taken.
The result follows:
Ayes - Representatives August, Bernier, Brooks, Craig, Endsley, Farrow, Honadel, Jacque, Kaufert, Kerkman, Kestell, Kleefisch, Klenke, Knilans, Knodl, Knudson, Kooyenga, Kramer, Krug, Kuglitsch, T. Larson, LeMahieu, Litjens, Loudenbeck, Marklein, Meyer, Mursau, Murtha, Nerison, Nygren, A. Ott, J. Ott, Petersen, Petrowski, Petryk, Pridemore, Ripp, Rivard, Severson, Spanbauer, Steineke, Stone, Strachota, Stroebel, Suder, Tauchen, Thiesfeldt, Tiffany, Tranel, Van Roy, Vos, Weininger, Williams, Ziegelbauer and Speaker Fitzgerald - 55.
Noes - Representatives Barca, Berceau, Bernard Schaber, Bewley, Clark, E. Coggs, D. Cullen, Danou, Doyle, Grigsby, Hebl, Hintz, Hulsey, Jorgensen, Kessler, Krusick, Mason, Milroy, Molepske Jr, Nass, Pasch, Pocan, Pope-Roberts, Radcliffe, Richards, Ringhand, Roys, Seidel, Shilling, Sinicki, Staskunas, Steinbrink, Toles, Turner, Vruwink, Wynn, Young, Zamarripa and Zepnick - 39.
Absent or not voting - Representatives Ballweg, Bies, Fields and Kapenga - 4.
Motion carried.
Assembly amendment 8 to Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 offered by Representatives Pocan, Vruwink and Bernard Schaber.
Representative Knodl moved that Assembly amendment 8 to Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 be laid on the table.
The question was: Shall Assembly amendment 8 to Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 be laid on the table?
The roll was taken.
The result follows:
Ayes - Representatives August, Bernier, Brooks, Craig, Endsley, Farrow, Honadel, Jacque, Kaufert, Kerkman, Kestell, Kleefisch, Klenke, Knilans, Knodl, Knudson, Kooyenga, Kramer, Krug, Kuglitsch, T. Larson, LeMahieu, Litjens, Loudenbeck, Marklein, Meyer, Mursau, Murtha, Nass, Nerison, Nygren, A. Ott, J. Ott, Petersen, Petrowski, Petryk, Pridemore, Ripp, Rivard, Severson, Spanbauer, Steineke, Stone, Strachota, Stroebel, Suder, Tauchen, Thiesfeldt, Tiffany, Tranel, Van Roy, Vos, Weininger, Williams, Wynn, Ziegelbauer and Speaker Fitzgerald - 57.
Noes - Representatives Barca, Berceau, Bernard Schaber, Bewley, Clark, E. Coggs, D. Cullen, Danou, Doyle, Grigsby, Hebl, Hintz, Hulsey, Jorgensen, Kessler, Krusick, Mason, Milroy, Molepske Jr, Pasch, Pocan, Pope-Roberts, Radcliffe, Richards, Ringhand, Roys, Seidel, Shilling, Sinicki, Staskunas, Steinbrink, Toles, Turner, Vruwink, Young, Zamarripa and Zepnick - 37.
Absent or not voting - Representatives Ballweg, Bies, Fields and Kapenga - 4.
Motion carried.
Assembly amendment 9 to Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 offered by Representatives Ringhand and Barca.
Representative Knodl moved that Assembly amendment 9 to Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 be laid on the table.
The question was: Shall Assembly amendment 9 to Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 be laid on the table?
The roll was taken.
The result follows:
Ayes - Representatives August, Bernier, Brooks, Craig, Endsley, Farrow, Honadel, Jacque, Jorgensen, Kaufert, Kerkman, Kestell, Kleefisch, Klenke, Knilans, Knodl, Knudson, Kooyenga, Kramer, Krug, Kuglitsch, T. Larson, LeMahieu, Litjens, Loudenbeck, Marklein, Meyer, Mursau, Murtha, Nass, Nerison, Nygren, A. Ott, J. Ott, Petersen, Petrowski, Petryk, Pridemore, Ripp, Rivard, Severson, Spanbauer, Steineke, Stone, Strachota, Stroebel, Suder, Tauchen, Thiesfeldt, Tiffany, Tranel, Van Roy, Vos, Weininger, Williams, Wynn, Ziegelbauer and Speaker Fitzgerald - 58.
Noes - Representatives Barca, Berceau, Bernard Schaber, Bewley, Clark, E. Coggs, D. Cullen, Danou, Doyle, Grigsby, Hebl, Hintz, Hulsey, Kessler, Krusick, Mason, Milroy, Molepske Jr, Pasch, Pocan, Pope-Roberts, Radcliffe, Richards, Ringhand, Roys, Seidel, Shilling, Sinicki, Staskunas, Steinbrink, Toles, Turner, Vruwink, Young, Zamarripa and Zepnick - 36.
Absent or not voting - Representatives Ballweg, Bies, Fields and Kapenga - 4.
Motion carried.
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Leaves of Absence
Representative Murtha asked unanimous consent for a leave of absence for part of today's session for Representative Litjens. Granted.
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Point of Order
Representative Richards rose to a point of order that Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 was not germane under Assembly Rule 54 (3)(f).
A335 Pursuant to a unanimous consent request by Representative Richards, his remarks have been entered into the Assembly Journal.
"Mr. Speaker, I rise on the point of order that Assembly Substitute Amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 is not germane under Assembly Rule 54 and may not be considered by the body.
As originally introduced, Assembly Bill 96 was limited to the composition of the Board of Veterans Affairs, the transfer of the power to appoint the Secretary of Veterans Affairs from the Board to the Governor, and rule making authority. The substitute amendment makes those changes as outlined in the original bill.
However, the amendment also expands the scope of the bill by specifying that the Department of Veterans Affairs will no longer be under the direction and supervision of the Board but instead be under the direction and supervision of the Secretary. By fundamentally changing the authority of the Board over the Department in a way that was not referenced or even suggested in the original bill, the substitute amendment substantially expands the scope of the bill and is, therefore, not germane under Assembly Rule 54 (3)(f).
This expansion of the bill also required the drafting attorney to create two new sections of the statutes that were not created by the original bill. Specifically, I refer to sections 6 and 8 of Assembly Substitute Amendment 1 which would create sections 45.03 (2m) and 227.14 (2)(a)6m of the statutes, respectively. These sections were not necessary in the original bill because the original bill did not alter the direction and supervision of the Department of Veterans Affairs.
In addition, the substitute amendment substantially alters the relating clause by adding "direction and supervision of the Department of Veterans Affairs." The direction and supervision of the department does not fall under the scope of the original relating clause, and the amendment is, therefore, prohibited under Assembly Rule 54 (1).
Mr. Speaker, you are the presiding officer. These are your rules. And your rules dictate that the amendment is not germane."
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Ruling on the Point of Order
Speaker Pro Tempore Kramer ruled the point of order not well taken. The full text of the ruling by Speaker Pro Tempore Kramer follows:
"Representative Richards rose to the point of order that Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 was not germane to the original relating clause under Assembly Rule 54 (1) generally, and specifically rule 54 (3)(f).
Both Assembly Bill 96 and Assembly substitute amendment 1 are intended to reform the constitution of the Department of Veterans Affairs and reform its relationship to the Governor. As noted in Representative Richard's point of order,
"As originally introduced, Assembly Bill 96 was limited to the composition of the Board of Veterans Affairs, the transfer of the power to appoint the Secretary of Veterans Affairs from the Board to the Governor, and rule making authority. The substitute amendment makes those changes as outlined in the original bill.
However, the amendment also expands the scope of the bill by specifying that the Department of Veterans Affairs will no longer be under the direction and supervision of the Board but instead be under the direction and supervision of the Secretary. By fundamentally changing the authority of the Board over the Department in a way that was not referenced or even suggested in the original bill, the substitute amendment substantially expands the scope of the bill and is, therefore, not germane under Assembly Rule (3)(f)."
Representative Richards' own concerns are the basis for the following ruling:
Speaker Pro Tempore Kramer ruled the point of order not well taken because the amendment under consideration accomplishes the same purpose as the unamended Assembly Bill 96 but in a different manner in accord with Assembly Rule 54 (4)(b)."
Representative Richards appealed the ruling of the Chair.
The question was: Shall the ruling of the Chair stand as the ruling of the Assembly?
The roll was taken.
The result follows:
Ayes - Representatives August, Bernier, Brooks, Craig, Endsley, Farrow, Honadel, Jacque, Kaufert, Kerkman, Kestell, Kleefisch, Klenke, Knilans, Knodl, Knudson, Kooyenga, Kramer, Krug, Kuglitsch, T. Larson, LeMahieu, Loudenbeck, Marklein, Meyer, Mursau, Murtha, Nass, Nerison, Nygren, A. Ott, J. Ott, Petersen, Petrowski, Petryk, Pridemore, Ripp, Rivard, Severson, Spanbauer, Steineke, Stone, Strachota, Stroebel, Suder, Tauchen, Thiesfeldt, Tiffany, Tranel, Van Roy, Vos, Weininger, Williams, Wynn, Ziegelbauer and Speaker Fitzgerald - 56.
Noes - Representatives Barca, Berceau, Bernard Schaber, Bewley, Clark, E. Coggs, D. Cullen, Danou, Doyle, Grigsby, Hebl, Hintz, Hulsey, Jorgensen, Kessler, Krusick, Mason, Milroy, Molepske Jr, Pasch, Pocan, Pope-Roberts, Radcliffe, Richards, Ringhand, Roys, Seidel, Shilling, Sinicki, Staskunas, Steinbrink, Toles, Turner, Vruwink, Young, Zamarripa and Zepnick - 37.
Absent or not voting - Representatives Ballweg, Bies, Fields, Kapenga and Litjens - 5.
Motion carried.
The question was: Shall Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 96 be adopted?
Motion carried.
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