Wednesday, June 23, 1999
10:25 A.M.
Ninety-Fourth Regular Session
The Assembly met in the Assembly Chamber located in the State Capitol.
Speaker Jensen in the chair.
The prayer was offered by Representative Ott.
Representative Owens led the membership in reciting the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
The roll was taken.
The result follows:
Present - Representatives Ainsworth, Albers, Balow, Berceau, Black, Bock, Boyle, Brandemuehl, Carpenter, Coggs, Colon, Cullen, Duff, Foti, Freese, Gard, Goetsch, Gronemus, Grothman, Gunderson, Gundrum, Hahn, Handrick, Hasenohrl, Hebl, Hoven, Huber, Hubler, Huebsch, Hundertmark, Hutchison, Jeskewitz, Johnsrud, Kaufert, Kedzie, Kelso, Kestell, Klusman, Kreibich, Kreuser, Krug, Krusick, La Fave, Ladwig, F. Lasee, Lassa, J. Lehman, M. Lehman, Leibham, Meyer, Meyerhofer, Miller, Montgomery, Morris-Tatum, Musser, Nass, Olsen, Ott, Owens, Petrowski, Pettis, Plale, Plouff, Pocan, Porter, Powers, Reynolds, Rhoades, Richards, Riley, Ryba, Schneider, Schooff, Seratti, Sherman, Sinicki, Skindrud, Spillner, Staskunas, Steinbrink, Stone, Suder, Sykora, Townsend, Travis, Turner, Underheim, Urban, Vrakas, Walker, Ward, Wasserman, Waukau, Wieckert, Williams, Wood, Young, Ziegelbauer and Speaker Jensen - 99.
Absent with leave - None.
Vacancies - None.
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Assembly amendment 1 to Assembly substitute amendment 1 to Assembly Bill 133 offered by Representative Travis.
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Executive Communications
June 22, 1999
The Honorable Scott Jensen
Speaker of the Assembly
211 West, State Capitol
Madison, WI 53702
Re: 1999 Assembly Bill 389
Dear Speaker Jensen:
1999 Assembly Bill 389, introduced by Representatives Hoven, Plale and Meyerhofer and co-sponsored by Senator Moen, relates to the control and ownership of transmission facilities by a transmission company and a Midwest independent system operator, ownership of nonutility assets by a public utility holding company, investments in transmission facilities, offers of employment to certain public utility and nonutility affiliates employes, fees and approvals for certain high-voltage transmission lines, construction of certain electric transmission facilities, environmental reviews by the public service commission, reports on reliability status of electric utilities, state participation in a regional transmission need and siting compact, incentives for development of certain generating facilities, study of market power and retail electric competition, market-based compensation, rates and contracts for electric customers, regulation of certain nitrogen oxide emissions, establishing programs for low-income energy assistance, improving energy conservation and efficiency markets and encouraging the development and use of renewable resources, creating a council on utility public benefits, establishing a utility public benefits fund, requiring electric utilities and retail electric cooperatives to charge public benefits fees to customers and members, imposing requirements on the use of renewable resources by electric utilities and cooperatives, requiring the exercise of rule-making authority, making appropriations and providing a penalty.
1999 Assembly Bill 389 will increase the cost of state government by an annual amount exceeding $10,000. Pursuant to sec. 16.47(2), Stats., I consider this bill an emergency bill, I recommend the bill and I ask that passage of 1999 Assembly Bill 389 be permitted prior to passage of the budget bill.
Sincerely,
Tommy G. Thompson
Governor
Special Guest
Representative Black introduced The Honorable Gaylord Nelson, former State Senator (1949-1959), former Governor (1959-1963), and former United States Senator (1963-1981), who addressed the members from the rostrum.
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Remarks by
The Honorable Gaylord Nelson
Pursuant to the unanimous consent request made by Representative Freese today, the remarks made by The Honorable Gaylord Nelson to the members of the Assembly follow:
"In 1992 and 1994, the United Nations sponsored world conferences revolving around the issues of population and sustainability. The settings were in Rio in 1992 and Cairo in 1994. These conferences involved the largest gatherings of world leaders, environmentally concerned citizens and scientists ever brought together in one place -they numbered around two or three thousand. Both the citizens, representing a host of Non-Government Organizations (NGO's), and the scientists had an extensive understanding of the emerging environmental crises in all parts of the globe. They were unanimous in the view that the environmental challenge must be addressed at all levels from the local to the international.
In contrast, the extraordinary assemblage of heads of state showed up at Rio because they were politicians and they finally sensed the growing rumblings at the grassroots. They knew it represented something politically important that could not be ignored, but what? Except for Gro Harlem Brundtland, Prime Minister of Norway, and perhaps a handful of others, the rest of the world leaders had little interest in environmental matters. These issues weren't on their political agendas because they didn't understand either its political or ecological significance. That now is rapidly changing as new generations come forward who do understand. Within the next two or three decades, dramatic changes will be well underway. Those changes will revolutionize the viewpoints and conduct of the political, social and economic establishments that set the standards and goals for society.
By then, it will be broadly understood that forging a society that is environmentally sustainable outweighs any other goal. And, at the same time, it will be understood that any society that is not environmentally sustainable will not be economically sustainable either.
In short, forging and maintaining a sustainable society is the single most important challenge for this and all generations to come. In responding to that challenge, population will be one of the key factors in determining whether we succeed or fail. That is what the Rio and Cairo conferences were all about.
At this point in history, no nation has managed, either by design or accident, to evolve into an environmentally sustainable society, which can be described as "one that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs." At present, all nations are pursuing a self-destructive course of fueling their economies by consuming their capital - that is to say, by degrading and depleting the resource base - and counting it on the income side of the ledger. That, obviously, is not a sustainable situation over the long term. The hard fact is that while the population is booming here and around the world, the resource base that sustains the economy is dwindling. It is not just a problem in faraway lands, it is an urgent, indeed, a critical problems here at home right now. We are talking about overpopulation, deforestation, aquifer depletion, air pollution, water pollution, depletion of fisheries, urbanization of farmland, soil erosion and much more. All of this is happening here and now.
Intellectually, we have finally come to understand that the wealth of the nation is its air, water, soil, forests, minerals, rivers, lakes, oceans, scenic beauty, wildlife habitats and biodiversity. Take this resource base away and all that is left is a wasteland.
In short, that's all there is. That's the whole economy. That's where all the economic activity and all the jobs come from. These biological systems contain the sustaining wealth of the world. All around the planet, these systems are under varying degrees of stress and degradation in almost all places including the United States. As we continue to degrade them, we are consuming our capital. And, in the process, we erode living standards and compromise the quality of our habitat. It is a dangerous path to follow. The bottom line is this: We are not just toying with nature, we are compromising the capacity of natural systems to do what they need to do to preserve a livable world. We can, and I trust we will forge a sustainable society but it will take more and better leaders and followers than what is available just now.
The encouraging thing is that increasing numbers of committed citizens are arriving on the scene and are at work changing attitudes and policies. Nonetheless, we are still short of that critical mass of leaders and followers necessary to actually reverse our direction and move on a path to sustainability.
In a dramatic and sobering joint statement (1992), the United States National Academy of Sciences and the Royal Society of London, two of the world's leading scientific bodies, addressed the state of the planet in the following words:
"If current predictions of population growth prove accurate and patterns of human activity on the planet remain unchanged, science and technology may not be able to prevent either irreversible degradation of the environment or continued poverty for much of the world...."
Is there any other single issue even a fraction as important as this-? Yet, the leaders of both political parties went through the last campaign in silence about sustainability and the disastrous consequences of continued exponential population growth.
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If our political system is unable to engage in an honest, forthright discussion of the major challenge of our time, is it any wonder there is widespread disillusionment with the system? It is somehow incongruous that we must go to a communist country to find another head of state as concerned about the state of the environment as Prime Minister Brundtland. "The most important issue of the 21st century is the environment." These were the words of Mikhail Gorbachev several years ago.
The President's Commission on Population Growth and the American Future published its five-volume report 27 years ago in 1972. The Commission was headed by John D. Rockefeller III. The bottom line conclusion was that the Commission could not identify a single value in American life that would be enhanced by any further population growth. In addition, the report condemned our unrestrained pro-growth philosophy and recommended that we move vigorously to stabilize our population of 200 million as rapidly as possible. Seventy million more people and 27 years later, we have yet to begin a serious discussion of the critical issues raised by the Commission. The reason is simple enough. The Commission tread into sensitive territory and raised controversial population issues. Their recommendation that we stabilize our population cannot be achieved without reducing our immigration rate below the more modest levels of the period 1950 to 1970. Though the immigration rate has been dramatically increased in recent years, any suggestion that the rate be decreased to some previously acceptable level is met with charges of "nativism" "racism" or worse. The real issue is simply numbers of people and the implications for freedom of choice and sustainability as our numbers here at home continue to expand. The United States could stabilize its population, as urgently recommended by the 1972 Rockefeller Report, and assist other nations to stabilize their populations if the political parties had the kind of courageous and enlightened leadership that is the entitlement of great nations.
All of this relates to Wisconsin and its future. Are we going to address those critical challenges that confront us here and now in Wisconsin or are we going to hover on the fringes and watch things evolve in some haphazard fashion?
The numbers give us some idea of the problem. In the past eight decades, the population of the United States has increased by about two and one half and Wisconsin has roughly doubled. At current rates, the populations of each will about double again during the next 75-90 years - within the lifespan of children already born.
This will pose multiple knotty problems, many which can be resolved but only if action is timely.
To gain some appreciation of the problem, we need to consider what Wisconsin will look like and be like with twice as many people. A doubling of the population will, for example, require that the whole current state infrastructure be approximately doubled within the next eight decades or thereabouts.
A Few Examples of Wisconsin
With a Population of 10 Million
1. Twice as many cars, trucks, parking lots, streets and freeways. Indeed, highway miles traveled in the U.S. have more than doubled since 1970 and the number of vehicles has risen by 90% - all that in just 28 years. With double the population, what will be the highway scene then?
2. Twice as many traffic jams.
3. Twice as many houses and apartment buildings.
4. Twice as many hospitals and nursing homes.
5. Twice as many prisons, halfway houses and juvenile facilities.
6. Twice as many grad schools, high schools, colleges and trade schools.
7. In short, twice as much of everything.
What Will Be the Population Impact
On Those Amenities That Make
Wisconsin What It Is?
Wisconsin's outdoor amenities of lakes, rivers, parks, forests, scenic beauty, and pleasant pastoral environments paints a picture of a very special place. This picture is framed on the east and north by two of the world's great fresh water lakes and on the west by two great rivers.
Obviously, growth creates problems and challenges. There was a time when there seemed to be an endless abundance of everything - land, fresh water, forests, space and the freedom to do whatever one pleased without intruding on the freedom of others. Unfortunately, that time has passed.
If we are to preserve those gifts of nature that make such a critical difference in the quality of our lives, then we must set far higher standards of stewardship than anything yet seriously proposed.
There isn't time nor is it necessary to run through the long list of environmental problems you are all familiar with. However, there are some concerns that I would like to share with you.
Non-point pollution remains perhaps our most complicated and persistent pollution problem. We have dealt reasonably well with pollution emanating from point sources. The challenge now is to pursue with vigor non-point pollution from urban and agricultural lands. In the eastern one-half of Wisconsin, 50% of the pollution comes from nonpoint sources; in western Wisconsin more than three fourths originate from nonpoint sources. The research and the knowledge to deal with the problem exist. Without further delay, now is the time to move forward with an aggressive program. The state has a responsibility (the Wisconsin Supreme Court has called it an "affirmative duty") under the Public Trust Doctrine to protect Wisconsin waters for all citizens.
When we combine the population growth with the proliferation of off-road vehicles (2-wheelers, three wheelers, four wheelers) speedboats, jet skis and snowmobiles, it isn't difficult to visualize the ultimate chaos and, finally, the destruction of those treasures we value most in our surroundings.
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In 1960 there were fifteen visitors for every acre of state parkland - now there are twenty; in 1950 there were 200,000 deer hunters on opening weekend and in 1998 there were 600,000. There are now 27,000 jet skis registered in Wisconsin - that is a three-fold increase in just the last five years. In the five-year period from 1990-1995, snowmobile registrations increased 28% and ATV registrations increased by 37%.
The problem of proliferating motorized vehicles preempting the use of public lands and waters isn't going to go away just because we close our eyes and refuse to deal with it.
It is our responsibility to this and future generations to preserve the beauty and integrity of our resource base and permit only those activities that do not compromise its intrinsic value and the enjoyment of it by everyone. That means setting high standards and enforcing them. Doing so won't be easy or simple. Some forty years ago when we began the Wisconsin lake classification program, it was clear that pressure on our lakes from motor boats, shoreline destruction, non-point pollution from the watershed and point pollution from surrounding cottages was degrading thousands of lakes.
At the time the classification studies began (under the direction of Bill Thrienen of the DNR), I suggested as a rough rule of thumb that motor boats should not be allowed on any lake that one could row across in twenty minutes. By 1960 it was already obvious that unless reasonable standards were established for motor size and speed, the enjoyment of many lakes would simply be destroyed.
With some 15,000 lakes and 40,000 miles of streams, uniform state standards and uniform enforcement are a necessity.
I understand that the budget for the Stewardship Fund is pending and may be acted upon momentarily. With your indulgence, I would like to comment on the proposed funding level. In just about 18 months, it will be 40 years since the legislature approved ORAP (Outdoor Recreation Acquisition Program), the predecessor of the Stewardship Fund. To his credit, Governor Knowles, a committed environmentalist, extended the concept of ORAP and provided funding. I was happy to accept Governor Knowles invitation to participate in the campaign to extend the ORAP program. The Fund has been further extended since.
Forty years ago, the ORAP authorization approved by the legislature amounted to 1/2 of one percent of the total budget. That percentage of the budget today would not be $40 million or $60 million annually, but rather slightly over $120 million.
Land prices have escalated even more rapidly than the inflation index. The remarkable Whitefish Bay Dunes Park in Door County was named as one of the original ORAP goals. It took from 1965 to 1980 to acquire the 840 acres for the park that included 14,000 feet of shorefront. The cost to the state was just under $1,000,000. Based on a number of recent transactions of property just outside the boundaries of the park, it would cost over $45,000,000 to acquire today.
As one who has closely followed this program for almost 40 years, I think it is beyond debate that the 1961 legislation blazed a new trail for others to follow and made an investment that will pay quality of life dividends for generations to come.
These kinds of quality of life opportunities show up frequently on the horizon and then fade away into history unless quickly seized and put to worthwhile use. There is, of course, an abundance of things to be done that support nature's efforts to maintain a livable world, all of them worthwhile. While it is not possible to do everything that would be useful, we ought to maintain the Fund at a level adequate to do those things we all concede are at a high level of importance.
My own biased view, thoughtfully biased I hasten to add, is that at a minimum, the Fund should be maintained at the same percentage of total budget as the original ORAP proposal - i.e. 1/2 of one percent of the total budget or $120 million. To put the numbers in some historical perspective, it should be noted that in 1960 the average cost of land per acre was $26. The price of comparable land in 1999 is $1600 per acre.
I realize it is late in the budget process and $120 million may be an unrealistic goal at this time - but it should be a realistic goal for the next budget. Thus, I hope a $60 million annual budget will be approved at this time. This is all by way of saying, please don't further enfeeble the Stewardship Fund by allowing inflation to debase its value even more rapidly.
Council For A Sustainable Wisconsin
I think the most important current environmental need is to establish some orderly procedure for evaluating the serious environmental threats and then initiating a public dialogue over the best approach to a resolution. Presently, we simply do not have an effective, well-designed mechanism for putting important issues on the public agenda and keeping them there until some resolution is achieved.