Senator Dorman moved that Senate Bill 568 be withdrawn from the joint committee on Finance.
[Point of order:]
Senator Sensenbrenner raised the point of order that the motion to withdraw Senate Bill 568 from the joint committee on Finance is not in order, and that this motion is only proper under the eighth order of business.
Senator Flynn asked unanimous consent that he be recorded with the majority on the last roll call. The chair took the point of order, raised by Senator Sensenbrenner, under advisement.
Senate Journal of February 14, 1978 .......... Page: 1708
Earlier today Senator Parys asked unanimous consent that Senate Bill 568 be referred to the joint committee on Finance and the bill was so referred.
Before the next bill was called Senator Dorman moved that the bill be withdrawn from the joint committee on Finance which would have the effect of referring the bill to the committee on Senate Organization.
At that time Senator Sensenbrenner raised the point of order that we were not on the eighth order of business and that a motion to withdraw was therefore not proper. The chair took the point of order under advisement.
The chair has checked the rules and finds no written rule that restricts motions to the eighth order of business, although that has been the practice and precedent of this session.
684 The chair recalls that in past sessions, operating under similar rules, motions to withdraw from committee have been made at other times than the eighth order.
It is the chair's opinion however, that unwritten precedent or informal agreements on Senate procedure should control when there is no written rule directly on point.
In this case the chair finds no written rule either allowing or forbidding the Senator to make a motion to withdraw from committee at the time he made it. But there is strong precedent this session, enunciated as recently as last week by the majority leader, that motions to withdraw bills from committee will be restricted to the eighth order of business.
Therefore, the chair rules that based on precedent established this session the point of order raised by the Senator from the 4th is well taken and Senate Bill 568 remains in the joint committee on Finance.
Senator Fred A. Risser
President of the Senate
Senate Journal of September 21, 1977 .......... Page: 1204
[Background: Senator Dorman moved that the rules be suspended and Senate Bill 225 be withdrawn from the joint committee on Finance and considered for action at this time. Display of roll call vote omitted; ayes-19, noes-12. Less than two-thirds having voted in the affirmative the motion did not prevail.]
Senate Journal of September 21, 1977 .......... Page: 1208
[Point of order:]
Senator Cullen raised the point of order that Senate Bill 225 should be considered at this time because of the majority vote to withdraw from the joint committee on Finance. ( The chair [Lt.Gov. Schreiber] ruled the point of order not well taken as a motion to withdraw and consider for action requires a suspension of the rules which requires a two-thirds vote.
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Senate Journal of March 25, 1976 .......... Page: 2163
[Point of order:]
Senator Murphy moved that Assembly Bill 421 be made a special order of business at 10:00 A.M. on Friday.
Senator Risser raised the point of order that the bill could not be withdrawn from committee when a public hearing had already been scheduled. The chair took the point of order under advisement.
Senate Journal of March 25, 1976 .......... Page: 2165
As it relates to the point of order raised on Assembly Bill 421, the chair [Lt.Gov. Schreiber] ruled that pursuant to Senate Rule 41 a bill could not be withdrawn from committee when a public hearing has already been scheduled. Any attempt to do so would require a suspension of the rules and a two-thirds vote.
Senate Journal of June 25, 1975 .......... Page: 990
[Point of order:]
Senator Dorman moved reconsideration of the vote by which Senate Bill 300 failed to be withdrawn from joint committee on Finance.
685 Senator Whittow raised the point of order that reconsideration was not in order on a motion to withdraw from committee.
The chair [Lt.Gov. Schreiber] ruled the point of order well taken as reconsideration of procedural motions is out of order.
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Senate Journal of February 21, 1974 .......... Page: 2253
[Withdraw and table as alternative to withdraw and refer to calendar:]
Senator Parys moved that Assembly Bill 934 be withdrawn from the committee on Industry, Labor, Taxation and Banking and laid on the table.
[Point of order:]
Senator Chilsen raised the point of order that the motion to withdraw from committee and lay on the table was a suspension of the rules and required a two-thirds vote.
The chair [Lt.Gov. Schreiber] ruled the point of order not well taken. A two-thirds vote would be required, only if an attempt were made to take from the table and consider for action, within the next two days.
Senate Journal of February 5, 1974 .......... Page: 2092
[Point of order:]
By request of Senator Hollander, with unanimous consent, Assembly Bill 876 [relating to towing charges for impounded vehicles] was referred to the joint committee on Finance.
Senator Hollander asked unanimous consent that Assembly Bill 876 be withdrawn from the joint committee on Finance and considered for action at this time. Senator Dorman objected.
Senator Hollander moved that Assembly Bill 876 be withdrawn from the joint committee on Finance and be considered for action at this time.
Senator Dorman raised the point of order that the senate body could not withdraw Assembly Bill 876 from the joint committee on Finance, as they did not have jurisdiction at this point.
The chair [Lt.Gov. Schreiber] ruled the point of order not well taken.
[ End - no further rulings ]
[ through June 29, 1994. ]
